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Some help picking parts please!

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Craftsman

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Ok, in short this is my situation: my current system is seriously showing it's age. It's time to look for a replacement. I'm looking for a system that will keep me satisfied (performance-wise) for the next three-four years. However, as I tried to explain last night on mumble, I do not have the required skills to put one together myself. I've been there and done that (in the end, resulting in me taking the half-finished job to the shop where it was discovered I had wrecked have of the parts). So this time round, I'm going for a custom designed, but not self-completed solution! I found that in Alienware. Out of the two models they have on offer, I'm opting for the aurora version, I've picked out most of the components I have some knowledge off, but some still remain. Here's the list I still have to pick from:

CPU
Intel® Core™ i7-3930K (6 Core, 12MB Cache Overclocked up to 3.9Ghz)
Intel® Core™ i7-3930K (6 Core, 12MB Cache Overclocked up to 4.1Ghz)
Intel® Core™ i7-3960X (6 Core Extreme, 15MB Cache Overclocked up to 4.0Ghz)
Intel® Core™ i7-3960X (6 Core Extreme, 15MB Cache Overclocked up to 4.2Ghz)
Intel® Core™ i7-3820 (4 Core, 10MB Cache, 3.60GHz)


I understand a 6 Core is probably the best choice, but will the overclocking be detrimental in some way? (heat, lifespan....)

GPU (single card)
1 GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 555
1,25 GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560 TI
1 GB AMD Radeon™ HD 687
3GB AMD® Radeon™ HD 7950
2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GTX 680

GPU (dual card)
Dual 1GB AMD Radeon™ HD 6870 CrossfireX™
Dual 1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 555 SLI™
Dual 2GB GDDR5 AMD® Radeon™ HD 7870 CrossFireX™
Dual 3GB AMD® Radeon™ HD 7950 CrossFireX™


I have no idea wether a dual card is something I'm looking for as I don't kave a clue what it's actual use is! I did look up some videobenchmark sites and realise these cards are in the (current) top-20. Oddly enough the 560 Ti seems to outperform all other?

Memory
8.192 MB (4 x 2 GB) 1.600 MHz Quad Channel DDR3
16.384 MB (4 x 4 GB) 1.600 MHz Quad Channel DDR3
8.192 MB (4 x 2 GB) 2.133 MHz Quad Channel DDR3


Is "more is better" the way to go here? Or go for less but faster?

So what would be the best picks?
Thanks!
 

BigAl

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well crafstman this is the system i got

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OVERCLOCKED-AMD-BULLDOZER-4-0GHZ-ATI-HD-6450-1TB-FAST-GAMING-COMPUTER-PC-/180753989243?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2a15c6fe7b


with taking out the graphics card that came with it and putting in this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560-Ti-2GB-GDDR5-PCI-E-DVI-I-HDMI-/160803101795?pt=UK_Computing_Computer_Components_Graphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item25709c9c63

and then later moving the 1tg hdd to a spare and using this as main os hdd

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corsair-Force-GT-120GB-2-5-Serial-ATA-3-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-6Gb-s-New-/320908791147?pt=UK_Computing_Solid_State_Drives&hash=item4ab7a78d6b


my next addition is this monitor

http://www.misco.co.uk/product/188186/Iiyama-B2776HDS-B-27inch-HDMI-LED-Monitor
 
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Craftsman

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Al,

Thanks for the info! Unfortunately, everything you mentioned is only available in the UK :p
But seriously, for once I'd like to get out of the same old merry-go-round and start from a good base. With this I mean that in the past, I'd buy myself a new system, then after 2-3 years, the limits of it would become apparant (no CPU replacement possible, not equipped for higher end vid-cards ...). So this a better, more informed start! But since I don't know much about the technical content of these things, I defer to the judgement of those reading this. For example, the system I'm looking at has a MicroATX-motherboard (supposedly one of the better with good longevity) it has the
Intel® X79 Express Chipset with unlocked BIOS for overclocking, CPU Socket 2011 (again I hope this means more to you than it does to me).

What it all comes down is that the choices I needed assistance with, will give me good chance in 2-3 years to be able to upgrade the system when the need arises. I prefer to to pay 1.000 to 2.000 € more now and see my expenses (via upgrades) lower in the future than having to pay 1.500 € every 2-3 years.
 

Juggernaut

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hi craftsman , I will look for spec for u soon, exams in college is eating up a lot of my free time ATM

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Craftsman

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In the meantime I learnt that Intel's K and X cores both suffer from heat and power hunger... the reason why this is offered with liquid cooling. So three fan systems and liquid cooling seems a bit over the top to me. Especially when it comes to loudness.

If I read the comments correctly, there's no real need for a 6 core (for me) as most applications seldom use 2 cores (let alone games). From CNET's review, the need for 6 core's will start showing itself in 2-3 years at the earliest.

So the following combination seems OK to me:
i7-3820 (4 core, 10mb cache, 3.60 Ghz)
2GB GDDR5 Nividia GTX 680
8MB 2.133 Mhz Quad Channel DD3